Homeowner's Guide to HARP

House MedicineIt appears that more homeowners with little-to-no-equity are gaining an interest in refinancing.  More importantly, they’re gaining confidence that there is an option.  This is good news as it appears the Home Affordable Refinance Program (HARP) is gaining both momentum and attention.

This seems like the right time to give homeowners an extensive guide to HARP, including who it best benefits, how to give homeowners the best shot of getting approved as well as other options to low-equity refinancing.

The HARP program was designed to help homeowners who are looking to refinance but have lost some to all of their equity in their home.  It only applies to homeowners who currently have a Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac owned loan, but that does not mean HARP is a homeowners only choice.  In fact, there’s surprisingly several opti0ns available to homeowners that may not have considered, nor did their lender give as an option.  In this post, I will cover who qualifies for a HARP refinance, who best benefits from HARP guidelines, which customers do not qualify for HARP and some alternatives to consider.

WHO IS FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC, AND HOW DO I FIND OUT IF THEY OWN MY MORTGAGE?

 One topic that is very confusing for homeowners is finding out who really owns their loan.  You think it would be as simple as looking at the name on your mortgage statement, right?  Not so.  In fact, it’s very rare for a loan to be truly owned by the company you make your payments to.  Lenders usually sell their loans to another entity.  They also will collect payments in behalf  of that entity which is called “Servicing.”

Let’s suppose you buy your house using Wells Fargo as your lender.  Wells Fargo then sells your loan to Freddie Mac.  Wells Fargo still collects your payments and passes the payments back to Freddie Mac while collecting a small fee for the service.  In this scenario, your loan is owned by Freddie Mac but Wells Fargo is your servicer. 

There are several steps you can take to find out if Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac owns your loan.  It’s vital to try all options before you give up because not all methods work the first time. 

The first place to check to see if either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac owns your mortgage is an online property lookup tool

Fannie Mae’s lookup tool:

http://loanlookup.fanniemae.com/loanlookup/

Freddie Mac’s lookup tool:

https://ww3.freddiemac.com/corporate/

If your property does not show up on either of the property lookup tools, you should still call Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac to see if they own your mortgage.  Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do not always have the exact address saved correctly.  This is why it’s important to call.

Fannie Mae’s phone number:

1-800-732-6643 or 1-800-7-FANNIE

Freddie  Mac’s phone number:

1-800-373-3343 or 1-800-Freddie

If you don’t have luck there, contact your current servicer and see if they know if you have a Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac loan.  Lastly, you can have the mortgage company you’re applying a HARP loan from run an automated approval through Fannie Mae’s Desktop Underwriter or Freddie Mac’s Loan Prospector software and it may indicate if the property qualifies for a HARP loan. 

MY LOAN IS A FANNIE MAE OR FREDDIE MAC LOAN. NOW WHAT?

 First, find out if your current loan has mortgage insurance.  As it stands now, HARP guidelines require that you work only with your current servicer if your loan has mortgage insurance.  However I have not heard of one servicer who will do this loan.  This topic was covered in my blog post, “Another Flaw With the HARP Program.”

HARP guidelines say a homeowner can finance up to 125% of their home value.  Most lenders are still following the original guidelines of 105% but a couple of lenders are beginning to finance up to 125%.  Both of these limits are for a first mortgage.  Currently, HARP guidelines do not have a limit to how high your combined-loan-to-value (CLTV) is which means if you have more than one loan, the total amount you owe against your house is not considered in the qualifications of a HARP loan as long as the first mortgage is in the 125% allowable range.

Even though Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac both allow above 100% financing, please note that the loan pricing is more expensive.  HARP loan pricing is best suited for 95% combined-loan-to-value or less meaning you’ll get your best rates and fees if you have at least 5% equity between all loans owed against the house.  Pricing is increased between 95.01-97% and increased again for anything above 97.01%.  This means you’ll want to be very careful of how much you borrower on your house if your loan amount is near the value of your home.   If your current Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac loan does not have mortgage insurance, you will not be required to get mortgage insurance on your new HARP loan.  This is one of the major benefits of doing a HARP refinance.

These programs are also very credit score driven.  Best pricing is for homeowners with a 720 credit score or higher. You can answer a quick 4 question eligibility test on the HARP website here.

Here is a quick summary of the HARP loan requirements:

  •  your loan will need to be owned by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac
  •  your current loan should not have mortgage insurance (you can contact your current servicer per guidelines but I have not heard of one servicer who will do this yet).
  •  you should have very high to excellent credit 
  • you can go as high as 105% of your home value with most HARP lenders and 125% with a few lenders but preferrably be at 95% or lower. 

I hate to say it, but that’s a pretty tight box.  Don’t take it for granted if you fit all these guidelines as many hit 2 or 3 of the bullet points above but not all 4. 

 I NEED OTHER OPTIONS.  WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE?

 Surprisingly, there are some great options available if you do not qualify for a HARP loan or you don’t like the pricing. 

A great alternative for the general public is FHA.  FHA allows up to 97.15-97.75%(depending on your area) of the home to be financed.  What makes FHA special is they do not have a limit for combined loans AND there are no negative pricing adjustments if the 2nd mortgage exceeds 100% like HARP loans.  Let’s suppose you have one loan at 95% of the home value and a second mortgage equal to 15% of the home value.  The two loans together equal 110% of the home value.  You then can pay off just the first mortgage with a FHA loan and keep the second mortgage above 100% of your value.  More importantly, FHA has much lower credit score requirements, the previous loan does not need to be a Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac loan and it doesn’t matter if the loan being paid off has mortgage insurance.  The only caveat is that all FHA 30 year loans require mortgage insurance. 

My favorite option using FHA  is their 15 year mortgage.  FHA allows a homeowner to finance up to 90% of their home on a FHA 15 year loan with NO MORTGAGE INSURANCE.  The same guidelines regarding combined value and credit apply as above.

Let’s say I have a homeowner who is interested in a 15 year fixed loan and no equity.  They have a loan equal to 85% of their home value and a second mortgage equal to 25% of their home value for a total value of 110%.  They can refinance on a FHA 15 year loan and payoff the first mortgage and keep the remaining second mortgage.  They do not pay mortgage insurance on the first mortgage and there are no pricing adjustments for the 2nd mortgage exceeding 100%.  Yes, 15 year loans have a higher payment since the pay off is faster, but between the lower rate of a 15 year loan and the removal of mortgage insurance, much of the payment increase is covered.  Plus this loan will pay down the borrower’s balance faster helping the homeowner gain their lost equity back.

Second, military veteran’s should find out if they can finance their new refinance with a VA(Veteran’s Affairs) loan. In October of 2008, the department of Veterans Affairs opened up the guidelines for veteran’s to allow them to refinance higher loan amounts and up to 100% of their home value when paying off an existing non-VA loan. This is a huge improvement to previous guidelines which only allowed up to 90% of the home value with a maximum loan amount of $144,000. However, the VA does not allow the loans to exceed 100% of the value under any circumstances. If you have two loans and they equal above the value of your home, you cannot do a VA loan.

To recap, here is a summary of when you would want to consider government loan programs:

  • For veteran’s who owe up to 100% but not over 100% of their value, VA is a great loan option
  • Homeowners who owe up to 97% of their first mortgage and have a 2nd mortgage above 97% should consider a FHA loan.  If the homeowner’s first mortgage is not a Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac loan, FHA will likely be their only option.
  • Any homeowner who has little equity and does not have a loan owned by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac should consider a FHA loan.
  • FHA 15 year loans do not require mortgage insurance as long as the FHA loan is at 90% of the home value or less REGARDLESS of the 2nd mortgage balance and combined loan-to-value.

MORE OPTIONS?

For the most part, homeowners are limited to the loan products above.  However, that does not mean they do not have other options.  Whether a homeowner needs a little more equity to qualify for any of the loan options above or to improve their loan pricing, they may consider getting another loan somewhere else to cover the cost.

One suggestion I’ve given clients that has helped is getting a 401k loan.  401k loans are loans taken against a  person’s retirement plan.  It’s not a withdrawal of retirement funds, so the person does not pay tax or penalty costs for the loan.  In many cases, the interest the person pays on a 401k loan is actually used to fund their retirement account which means they’re paying interest to themselves.

On a Fannie Mae HARP refinance (DU Refi Plus), the additional cost from a 95% loan-to-value loan to a 97.01+% loan is a 1.75% fee.  This means if your appraisal shows you have 2.99% equity or less, you have to pay a 1.75% fee or higher rate compared to someone that had 5% equity.  If you could get a small 401k loan to cover the difference, it may be worth your while.  On a $200,000 loan amount, a 1.75% fee is $3,500!  Borrowing $4,000 (2%) more in equity that you will pay yourself back to save a $3,500 fee you will never get back is a great money-saving solution.

UPDATE

If you are looking to do a HARP refinance and currently have a fixed mortgage through Freddie Mac, you cannot do an Open Access Freddie Mac HARP refinance to an adjustable rate.  You can only refinance to another fixed loan.

UPDATE

The HARP program was set to expire on June 10th, 2010.  The program was extended and now is set to expire on June 30th, 2011, approximately one year later.  News of this extension can be found here.

33 comments to Homeowner’s Guide to HARP

  • Quick Update, if you are having troubles getting the second mortgage companies to subordinate on your HARP refinance, be sure your lender is sending the request stating it’s for a DU Refinance Plus for Fannie HARP loans and Open Access for Freddie HARP refinances. I just learned that many lenders, including B of A, are more likely to do the subordination if that is stated on the request.

  • Darci

    Wells Fargo does HARP refi’s with mortgage insurance.

  • Darci,

    That’s great news! After hearing of dozens of horror stories, this is the first I’ve heard of this.

    Was this your refinance?

  • mortgagebubble07

    hey guys, I like many others bought a house in the last 5 years and now am stuck with a home that I owe quite more than its worth. Im going through a loan modification at the time and used this mod guide I found at http://www.modifyingmadeeasy.com. The guide only cost me 19.95 and has helped me understand the process I’m going through. I recommend to all, best of luck.

  • I have several past clients that have to request a loan modification for various reasons. I have been referring these clients to the http://www.AssistYouWith.com website. They prepare the paperwork and make sure you have a complete package to submit.

    Our company is currently working the HARP up to 105%. Thanks for the headup on the subordination request because we are getting some resistance from the Seconds.

    Does anyone know of any Lenders doing the VA loan modification programs? I can’t seem to find anyone to help the Vets and the Lenders don’t seem to know the program.

  • Randi,

    I haven’t heard of anybody doing mods on VA loans. I think the VA is resistent to modifying their loans because their streamline guidelines are so light. Most mods being done are short-term modifications which are similar to VA 5/1 ARM’s with a fixed 5-year initial period and 1% increase each year after (the max adjustment on VA ARM’s is 1% after the 5th year on certain VA ARM’s).

  • Kathryn Rude

    Thank you for the information BUT once again I find myself unable to refinace due to 2 circumstances: 1) My cresit score is only 680 and 2) I have a freddie mac loan with 300/month PMI that banks are NOT refinancing. I feel totally trapped!! I cannot wite off the PMI because the house was purchased approx 1 week before the law came into effect that I could write it off, Dec 15th, 2006. I cuurently throw 301/month out the window!! Needless to say I am trapped in a mortgage that is way TOO high-2,425/month for a 272, 000 house. ANY advice would be helpful. Thank You!!!

    Kathryn,

    Who is your servicer? Also, how much do you think your house is worth? According to another person who commented here, Wells IS doing HARP loans with PMI. Also, maybe FHA could work. Let me know what your approximate value is and let’s see what we can do.

    Keane

  • Kathryn Rude

    My lender is BOA, I owe 272,000. I recently had it appraised at 340,000 FHA through a private broker. However, a semi-comprable house down the street just sold for 241. However, we have put over 25,000 in updates into this house over the past 3 yrs. From what I understand, I cannot utilize another lender like wells fargo for a BOA loan.

    Kathryn,

    If you have an appraisal done and it’s a FHA appraisal for that amount, you’re good. The recent sale could affect value but details of that sale would need to be considered before including. You only need a value around $285k-290k to make a FHA loan work. I think that is your solution.

    Keane

  • Avinash

    I have been struggling to get Bank of America to refinance my loan under HARP program, but they refuse it because of LPMI. I am really perplexed since Wells is doing it however Bank of America is getting away scott free and they have the odacity of giving ads in the TV which show them as taking care of their customers and american people.

    They refuse to do it even if teh guidelines of DUrefi Plus clearly permit such refinancing

    How do we get our voices heard

    Thanks

    Avinash,

    This is exactly what I blogged about on my “Another Flaw with the HARP program”. As consumers become more interested in a HARP refinance, more of them will become very angry when they learn the largest bank in America will not do their refinance even though it fits guidelines.

    At the moment, there’s still nothing you can do. Did you read the other options in this blog? Can you maybe move to a FHA loan?

    Keane

  • Ken Schoniger

    Keane:

    I have a 30 year fixed 5.875% mortgage with a 40% LTV that I wish to refinance at a lower rate. The home is currently occupied by caretaker/tenants while we are on an extended stay with our children but we expect to return to our home during the next two years or before. We have heard that Freddy/Fannie will not allow the refinance of non owner occupied single family tenants but this make no sense to us at all. The house is on 12 acres on a moutain top. surely it is in Freddy/Fanny’s best interest to have it occupied. what can we do?

    Ken,

    Your scenario sounds 100% acceptable. The caretakers do not make your property non-owner occupied. It is your home and will remain your home. At worse, a lender may want you to refinance this is a non-owner occupied home which has a price adjustment, but from what you’ve shared, this wouldn’t be necessary. I’ve done refinances for soldiers who let their family stay in their home while they’re away. It doesn’t change the fact it’s your home that you live in. The caretakers would need to be aware of the refinance and let the appraiser in to visit the home. Other than that, it’s fine.

    Keane

  • Steve and Dawn

    Keane,

    Here is our story. We bought our house in 1998 at $157,000. We refinanced and our current mortgage is $166,000 at 6.25%. Everything was going fine until the recession hit and my husband was laid off in Feb. 2009. We have managed to keep our house payments current and in doing so we now have about $10,000 in credit card debt. It looks as if it may be another few months before work is available again. We were denied the modification program and just recently inquired about the HARP program. We were denied that as well due to our credit score. I am going to inquire about the FHA loan tomorrow, do you have any other advice for us if we are turned down for that as well. We really don’t want to become delinquent on our mortgage payments, but we are really getting scared that might happen. What can we do, we have never missed our payments in the past, but one of the reasons our credit score has suffered is that we have focused on our mortgage and only paid bills such as our utilities a certain amount a month. We always make a payment to them, just not the full payment. Any advice? Thank you very much.
    Steve and Dawn

    Steve and Dawn,

    I can tell you two are doing what you can.

    FHA loans do allow a more lenient credit score than HARP loans do. What is the estimated value of your home? That will help with finding out.

    I wouldn’t give up on the modification option either. We are finally starting to see reputable companies who will help homeowners modify their loan terms. I wouldn’t give up on that yet.

    Keane

  • Christian

    If you qualify for a HARP refinance of the first mortgage can you refinance the second with the second mortgage holder under the program? If not can you attempt to refinance the second mortgage? Thank you.

    The HARP program is only for refinancing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans on a rate/term refinance. I believe there was a time that Freddie Mac actually offered both the first and second mortgage, but I may be wrong. Almost every Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loan is a first mortgage, so likely no, you cannot refinance the 2nd on a HARP.

    You can refinance the 2nd separately but if you’re above 100% value, nobody will likely do it.

    Keane

  • Sandy

    We have been trying to refinance our home since December 2008 with Wells Fargo. Built our home in 2001. We have our 1st with Wells $289,000 and a 2nd also at Wells for $250,000. Our home appraised at $534,000 in 2009. We have numerous complaints about the appraisal (said we had a wood fence when it is a block fence, home is custom blueprinted not stated, and the list goes on and on)is there an agency to lodge a complaint against the appraiser? His appraisal is causing the problems with our loan. Our neighbors home just sold for $599,000 and is smaller sq feet, less custom, etc. than ours. Wells Fargo is now suggesting that we do a HARP loan to refi? Any suggestions we are just trying to get a lower rate?
    Sandy

  • Sandy,

    You can try to do a HARP refinance. Remember that FHA loans allow for above 100% value on two loans combined. There’s also no price adjustments like HARP loans. You do have to pay mortgage insurance on a 30 year loan but you don’t on a 15 year loan up to 90% of the home value.

    I’m doing a FHA refinance for somebody right now up to 90% on a first mortgage (15 year) and keeping the second over 100% of the value. It’s nice because we’re paying off as much of the 2nd mortgage as we can up to 90%, which you can’t do on a HARP.

    I would heavily consider a FHA loan depending on the rates you have on your current loans.

  • One more tip for everyone out there:

    HARP loan guidelines can be very helpful in obtaining high loan-to-value financing but every appraisal is still subject to an appraisal desk review by the lender.

    The new Home Value Code of Conduct (HVCC) rules followed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac make it less likely that you will have to deal with an appraisal review adjustment, but it is still possible. Especially if your property is very unique compared to homes in your market.

  • Donna

    We are trying to refinance through HARP. Our loan is through Chase, it is our primary home and we do not have a 2nd mortgage on it. Our loan is owned by Fannie Mae, we do not have PMI on it. We have excellent credit score and a LTV of 92%. We are being told by Chase that while we met the HARP and Fannie Mae requirements they will not refinance because our home is a condominium. We live in NYC. We have tried through other banks (BoA, Citibank, HSBC) and they have told use they will not do a HARP refinance for another bank.

    Any advice?

    Thanks

  • Donna,

    Any HARP lender SHOULD be able to do your loan. It’s a lenders choice if they don’t want to do a condo.

    If you keep your new loan at 95% of your new value after you roll in closing costs, you will get the most ideal HARP pricing.

    Feel free to contact me. I can give you some tips on finding a good HARP lender if you wish.

    Keane

  • MS

    Hello,

    My current (only 1st mortgage) loan is with CITI and it is a Freddie loan. CITI would not re-fi under the HARP 125% LTV program due to some technical issues.
    I found a local Credit Union that said they could do my loan as an ‘OPEN ACCESS’ with upto 125% LTV. Everything was progressing till today when my current Insurer said that for OPEN ACCESS they (MGIC) support only 105% LTV… IF it is the same servicer then MGIC would write Loan upto 125% LTV. I am currently at avery high interest rate (7.5%) Please help,

    Regards, – MS

  • MS,

    I think you’re getting false information. If the loan has mortgage insurance, you MUST go through your servicer. Nobody can do a HARP refinance with mortgage insurance on the current loan other than the current servicer, unless they’ve recently changed the guidelines.

    “Open Access” IS a HARP refinance. All Fannie Mae HARP refinances are called “DU Refi Plus” and all Freddie Mac HARP refinances are called “Open Access”.

    If your loan has mortgage insurance and is with Freddie Mac, you can only get a HARP refinance from Citi.

  • Andreas

    I have 3 Wamu/Chase loans, two rentals one primary.two are fannie(option and 5/1 arms) one freddie(5/1 arm) all at or under 95 ltv. I am told by Chase that due to my original loan being a low doc stated type that it does not qualify for Harp. I have spoken with 4 chase agents and they either say no qual or not eligible for streamline(basically a nice way of saying no qual. I can’t find anyone that is discussing this aspect. I have perfect credit no pmi and meet every criteria. Also I have a second that did not show up on title when I did a refi and pulled $100,000 out. It shows on credit file but not in title. If I can’t refi and loose the house would the second be the legal first?

  • Andreas,

    It may be an internal thing as to why Chase won’t do it.

    Did you check any other HARP lenders? The “no PMI” means anybody can try.

    If the 2nd was never recorded to title, then it’s unsecured. I would check your county public records to see if it was recorded.

    The non-owner options for a Freddie Mac Open Access look pretty good with the right lender.

    What’s the terms of your loans now?

    Keane

  • Dan

    Keane,
    Thanks for the informative info on HARP. I have been solicited by my lender to refinance under HARP. It is for an investment property (single family home) for which I have 80-90% LTV. Some sources seem to suggest that HARP refinance is only available for owner-occupied properties. Do investment properties qualify?

  • Dan,

    Investment properties DO qualify. I priced a 30 year fixed at 5.5% on a non-owner property at 100% of the property value two days ago. It was a Freddie Mac loan. I was very impressed with the pricing.

  • andreas

    Did some more reseach on the Fannie Mae Harp refi with Chase, including talking to Fannie Mae directly. It appears that Chase and other lenders are qualifing borrowers with their own underwriting criteria, not directly related to Fannie Mae guidance(DU Refi qualifing program)and if the loan you are trying to refi was originally a low dac/stated loan these lenders will require full doc even though fannie would refi it with their streamlined system, that system often does not require an appraisal or more than verbal proof of income. So I am of the understanding that going with another lender other than the servicer would be prudent due to the new lender not having the original loan criteria in there system. The ironic thing is, should Fannie kick it out for manual underwiting they would require you to go through the original servicer (another fee and credit check). How about a public option for doing refi’s where lenders don’t make 8-$16,000 for selling fannie or freddie a loan they already have on there books and can be streamlined in their “DU REFI” program in 15 minutes with a $75 no apprasial fee. I have an an underwater 6.5 5/1 set to reset in year, never missed a payment and a 750+ FICO. So at this point Chase as the servicer and seller of the original loan to fannie (do they have any fuducary responsibility to fannie/Taxpayer?) would rather me default (in my best interest Moral hazard aside) costing Fannie $100,000 plus and making Chase a good chunk charging Fannie/Taxpayer for servicing the forclosure process. I have heard(lind-waldock)that for the responsable hard working self employed risk taking American that is being hung out to try in all this, could take matters into their on hands by selling Eurobond futures contracts (3 month Libor) on the CME, that if done right would lock in their current Libor .75 + Margin (2.1 margin in my case) for a effective fixed interest only of %3.85 for 25 years. Tell me I am missing somthing please as I am clearly going insane.

  • andreas,

    Yes, many HARP lenders will crucify you if you did your previous loan low-no doc. All VERY good points. When we run the file through Fannie Mae’s system, it just checks to see if it’s a Fannie Mae loan and we follow the guide on what’s needed. It sounds like the original servicers are actually making it harder on their existing clients.

    Yes, the system is designed to make the new lender money but they do have skin in the same. Loan defaults, they share the loss. That’s why many lenders won’t go to 125% when the guide allows them too. The last time I checked, the lender has up to 6 months post closing where they can buy back the loan. That’s a long time to wait to see if a homeowner will default on a 125% loan.

    You lost me on your 3.85% theory…LOL. I’m not sure sure how selling Eurobond futures is going to lock the Libor at .75% for 25 years. I think your rate would be 2.85% if it did work. Tell more so know what you’re talking about, but at this moment, I’m not getting it.

  • KV

    Keane,

    Great site and service you have here. Here’s our situation. Our primary mortgage (no second) has an outstanding bal of $194,000; we recently had it appraised for $162,000 which put the LTV ~121%. Our monthly payment is $1,350 and there’s no mortgage insurance on this loan. We originally refi it in 2008 with a broker with Bears & Sterns as lender. It was subsequently purchased and is now serviced by Chase. The loan is guaranteed by Fannie Mae (I checked).

    We are current with payments and really are not in hardship. We’re trying to decide on whether to sell our current home, rent it, or stay. We probably don’t qualify for short sale. We don’t qualify for the HAMP.

    The only other option is the HARP. I’ve been reading and researching this but still have additional questions:

    1. By all accounts we qualify for HARP. I approached Chase and one rep said I didn’t qualify because the loan didn’t originate with them but through a broker. He said it was a limitation set by Fannie Mae. I took his word but did further research and could not find any such restriction from FM. Is this just Chase’s way of not wanting to do a HARP Refi at LTV of 121%? It’s sounds more like of a internal Chase restriction than a govt. Pardon my laymen understanding but is this similar to what Chase told Andreas in above post?

    2. If I can refi with someone else than Chase, I will. Our current interst rate is a decent 5.75% 30yr fixed. I’m not sure we can get any better than that rate when factors such as LTV @121%, credit score (my spouse is 800 but I have a bk in 2001), and points/fees comes into play.

    3. Under HARP, can you go from a fixed to ARM? Will any lender do an ARM with LTV 121%? I’m assuming no but…

    4. What about FHA for our situation?

    We’re kind of stuck in the middle where we really don’t qualify for anything. We’re leaning towards just renting the house, take some monthly loss, and maybe break even in 2, 3, 5yrs?

    Thanks for any insights you have.

  • Andreas

    Bad math %2.85 I am already starting to feel better. This is the link to the arm lock theory http://www.lind-waldock.com/education/ewire/archives/705/feature01.shtml. Any extra research by Joe six pack on this would be helpful. I didn’t realise the lender still has liability after selling to Fannie,Freddie or Joe. Perhaps Uncle Sam should should take that liability, that’s what Joe was made to believe in the rolling out the plan speeches. I wonder how it would come off if Obama said we are rolling out these plans, but we have to first get permission from the good folks at Chase, Citi et al. So now the question is what lender is relying on the Fannie and Freddie rules primarily and only charging $4000 over wholesale for the privilege.

  • KV,

    FHA is out of the question for you. FHA is great for people who have two loans over 100% but the first is under 97.75%.

    Chase’s decision to NOT do the refinance is purely based on their own overlaying risk guidelines.

    You’re correct in that you do qualify. You just need to find a Fannie HARP lender in your area who can finance up to 125%.

    Your rate is pretty good considering your value and that you don’t have mortgage insurance. You CAN go to an adjustable rate option, but no interest-only. I just priced a Fannie Mae HARP 7/1 ARM for someone today.

  • Ginger

    Hi Kevin,

    I am looking to refi an adjustable mortgage into a fixed. I have contacted one lender and it looks like I can do a conventional loan–credit score is no problem, and the loan is for $130K (no cash out)–I don’t know the appraisal on the home but zillow lists it at $300K but I think that is inflated–probably value is low to mid 200s. I have a Fannie Mae loan w/ Chase and there is no Mortgage Insurance on it.

    Then I found info on Fannie Mae and HARP. Should I do a conventional refi or should I contact Chase and ask them about HARP. Are the interest rates the same? I am wondering if I will have to pay fees w/ HARP or do they waive them? THanks.

  • Ginger

    On the off note–a question unrelated to HARP–can I go to a different lender? I went in to meet w/ a lender, brought all my documents, was approved, signed several docs (work verification, letting them pull credit etc . . .) (but I did not sign final loan docs) and locked into a 5.00% rate. I was asked if I wanted to lock in at that rate and I agreed.

    I found out a few days later they thought they had locked me in (it was close to 4:00pm) but turns out the rate was not locked and now has risen. I was asked if I wanted to lock in the higher rate, but I missed the 4:00 deadline to do so today. I am wondering if I should go to another lender or if this is a common error.

  • Ginger

    Finally, just want to add the home is my only home, I live in it and it is a home, not condo. Not sure if that makes a difference w/ HARP.

  • Dan

    My primary home is financed by 2 loans which are both Fannie Mae. The combined amounts of the 2 loans easily meets the LTV of 95-100% for a declining market. No PMI (original financing was 80/15). Chevy Chase representative in the refinance department is trying to tell me that they do not do HARP refinancing. IS a loan servicer able to refuse to follow HARP guidlines when they do not own the loan? She is also trying to tell me that I wouldn’t benefit from it anyway. However, with FHA refinance I would have to have the home appraised and doubt I would have 80%LTV to avoid PMI. I want to consolidate the 2 loans I have and acquire a lower interest rate.

  • Dan,

    How did you verify that both loans are owned by Fannie Mae? Were they both used to purchase the home? It’s very rare to find a 2nd mortgage owned by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

    HARP refinances are not required by the current servicer. In fact, some servicing companies do not do loan originations at all. Your loan does not have PMI, so you don’t have to go to your servicer. Just find someone who specializes in this form of refinancing and let them do it. The current servicer will not have anything special for you anyways. Email me if you want a suggestion for someone in your area.

    FHA 30 year loans require Mortgage Insurance regardless of how much equity there is. They do not follow the same guidelines as conventional loans. FHA 15 year loans do not require mortgage insurance if there is at least 10% equity.

    If your first and second are both owned by Fannie Mae, then refinancing and paying them both off would likely be beneficial.

Leave a Reply

 

 

 

You can use these HTML tags

<a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

Subscribe without commenting